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what is mike tyson’s legacy?
what will you, personally, remember mike tyson for being?
for me, he will be remembered as one of the saddest stories and greatest wastes of talent in the history of sports…he was pound for pound the best boxer in the world, and was on the straight line to being one of the greatest heavyweights to step in the ring and maybe to be one of the best pound for pound fighters ever…then came the loss to buster douglas, and then came the rape conviction, and then came the attack on holyfield’s ear, and all of a sudden the wall of invincibility came tumbling down…and you could see the ensuing results, the unveiling of his drug problems and substantial debts, and continuing legal trouble…he SHOULD be remembered for being one of the most talented fighters of this generation, but he WILL be remembered for being a headcase
it’s time for the rest of you guys to weigh in on this one
yea there is definitely something to be said about the loss of d’amato having a detrimental effect, as well as the greed of those associated with his career
yea there is definitely something to be said about the loss of d’amato having a detrimental effect, as well as the greed of those associated with his career
There have been a lot of boxers, baseball players, football players, and participants in other sports who earned the "flash in the pan" label because "what could have been" was much greater than what actually was.
In Mike Tyson’s case, the loss of Cus D’Amato surely hurt, as did the loss of Jimmy Jacobs. But Mike himself fired Teddy Atlas and Kevin Rooney. And he raped Desiree Washington without the help of anyone.
At some point, Mike must be held accountable for the difference between what could have been and what was. Even if he wasn’t as great as he seemed to be, he could have been much better than he turned out to be.
You’re right about how Mike WILL be remembered, and that’s unfortunate. But he is responsible for his behavior, and neither Cus nor Jimmy nor Teddy nor Kevin could have prevented him from self-destructing. Mike was the horse who could be led to water but, after awhile, wouldn’t drink.
I don’t think Mike was as great as many think he was. He was ferocious, but he never had great stamina. His record, even early on, wasn’t that impressive when he had to go beyond the 5th round. And his opponents were the the best, either. It’s not his fault that Muhammad Ali had retired and Larry Holmes was well past his prime when he fought him, but he did not get to face the best fighters of his era.
I think Ali would have toyed with Tyson, and Holmes would have taken him apart as well. NOBODY could attack Sonny Liston the way Mike attacked his opponents and live to tell about it. Ernie Shavers probably hit harder than Tyson did, and George Foreman had a great jab backed up by great power. Tyson would have had trouble with those guys.
Be that as it may, Tyson was one of the most exciting fighters of all time. He was a great "fighter."
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More War on the Horizon?
More War on the Horizon
by Paul Craig Roberts
by Paul Craig Roberts
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No pullout from Iraq while I’m president, declares George W. Bush.
On to Iran, declares Vice President Cheney.
Israel is a "peace-seeking state" that needs $30 billion of US taxpayers’ money for war, declares State Department official Nicholas Burns.
The Democratic Congress, if not fully behind the Iraqi war, at least no longer is in the way of it.
Nor are the Democrats in the way of the Bush regime’s build up for initiating war with Iran.
The Bush regime says it is going to designate part of Iran’s military – the Revolutionary Guards – a terrorist organization, whose bases and facilities Bush intends to bomb along with Iran’s nuclear energy sites. Three US aircraft carrier strike forces are deployed off Iran. B-2 Stealth Bombers are being fitted to carry 30,000 pound "bunker-buster" bombs to use against hardened sites. Politicized US generals assert that Iran is providing arms and aid to the Iraqi resistance to the US occupation. The media is feeding the US population the same propaganda about nonexistent Iranian weapons of mass destruction that they fed us about nonexistent Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. A former CIA Middle East field officer, Robert Baer, has written in Time magazine that the Bush regime has decided to attack the Revolutionary Guards within the next 6 months. Remember the "cakewalk war"? Well, this time the neocons think that an attack on the Revolutionary Guards will free Iran from Islamic influence and cause Iranians to back the US against their own government.
Lies, unprovoked aggression, and delusional expectations – the same ingredients that produced the Iraq catastrophe – all over again. The entire Bush regime and both political parties are complicit, along with the media and US allies.
According to Baer, the Bush regime has given no consideration to whether Iran’s response to a US attack might be different than to welcome it as liberation. What if Iran really were to arm the Iraqi resistance and/or to sink our aircraft carriers? How can any government, even one as incompetent, delusional and unaccountable as the Bush regime, initiate war without any thought to the consequences?
The Bush regime’s planned war against Iran casts light on the large increase in military armaments that the US is supplying to Israel. With Iraq in chaos and civil war, an attack on Iran leaves as opposition to Israel only Syria and Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. Israel cannot finish off the Palestinians until Hezbollah is destroyed. An Israeli attack on Syria while the US attacks Iran would leave Hezbollah without supplies in the face of a new Israeli attack.
The agenda unfolding before our eyes may be the neoconservative/Israeli/Cheney plan to rid the Middle East of any check to Israeli territorial expansion.
Nicholas Burns said that the $30 billion in military aid was not conditional on any Israeli concessions or progress toward resolving the conflict with the Palestinians. Israel’s ghettoizing and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian West Bank proceeds apace.
Meanwhile in America, while more money is poured into more war, condemned bridges collapse killing Americans who trusted their government to provide safe infrastructure. Devastated residents of New Orleans remain unaided. Financial difficulties deepen for more Americans as falling home prices and jobs lost to offshoring push more Americans into desperate straits. The US dollar continues to fall as the government’s war debts build up abroad.
Except for the armaments industry, where is the gain to America in Bush’s wars? Before Bush invaded Afghanistan, the Taliban had stamped out drug production. The US invasion has brought it back.
On August 22 Bush told the Veterans of Foreign Wars that US troops are the "greatest force for human liberation the world has ever known." Tell that to the 650,000 dead Iraqis and the 4 million displaced Iraqis, and the tens of thousands of slaughtered Afghans, and the coming civilian deaths in Iran. Tell that to all the bombed civilians from Serbia to Africa who are blown to pieces in order that a US president can make a point. Bush goes far beyond George Orwell’s "Newspeak" in his novel, 1984, when Bush equates US hegemony with liberation.
America’s hegemonic hubris is a sickness. A country that tolerates a war criminal while he openly plans to attack yet another country is definitely not a light unto the world.
August 24, 2007
Paul Craig Roberts [send him mail] wrote the Kemp-Roth bill and was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review.
The best defense we have right now against the Iranian threat is our troops prescence in Iraq. We cannot just pull them out and not expect Iran to move in and gain even more power, not to mention the thousands of innocents that will be killed, deserted by us.
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Do you know who did this?
1. He ran for political office seven times and was defeated each time.
2. She wanted to be a performer; she went to drama school in New York. After several months, the school wrote her mother that she had no acting ability at all. They said, “Take her back home.”
3. He wanted to publish a children’s book. It was rejected by publishers 23 times.
4. He was quiet and uninvolved in high school. He flunked out of college. Acting was a way out of not knowing what to do.
5. He wanted to be a military leader or a great statesman. As a student, he failed three times in his exams to enter the Military Academy.
6. In trying to solve a problem, she tried 487 experiments, all of which failed.
7. He wanted to be an outstanding businessman. He wanted his own candy. At 19 he tried to operate one. It failed. He went to New York and tried to manufacture candy. That failed too.
8. He wanted to be a writer. Never in eight years of writing did he have an article accepted for publication. He had literally hundreds of rejection slips. At age 37, all he had was $.18 in his pocket and two cans of sardines to eat.
9. He wanted to be an outstanding businessman. At age 52 he had been selling milkshake mixers for years, which had put him $100,000 in debt. His other jobs included selling paper cups for 17 years, playing the piano in a nightclub, and selling real estate in Florida. He had diabetes, arthritis, and had lost his gallbladder for most of his thyroid gland.
10. He was cut from the high school J.V. basketball team.
11. In sports, he struck out 1,330 times in baseball.
12. He wanted to sketch and create cartoons. He applied for a job with a Kansas City newspaper. After looking at his work, the editor said, “To be frank with you, it’s easy to see from these sketches that you have no talent.”
13. He failed to make his high school baseball team’s traveling squad as a freshman. The L.A. Dodgers thought of him as a relief pitcher. He gave up 20 runs in seven innings in the minor leagues.
14. He talks with a lisp. He was below average as a football player. He wears thick-lens glasses. He is small in stature.
15. His father left him at age six. He was cut from the Houston Oilers because he was too slow and too small.
16. He was 5’3”tall. He had to be on his high school’s wrestling team in the ninth grade to win a letter. He was considered too short to play pro basketball.
17. She was born out of wedlock. She was sent to a juvenile detention home at age 13. She ate to feel better about her problems and weighed over 200 pounds.
18. He, his four brothers, and one sister ate rice three times a day. His family would move from place to place in New York because it was cheaper than paying rent. He worked in movies at age five to support his family. He was the boy in the Buster Brown shoe ads.
19. He was raised in an orphanage. He never finished college. He put a $75 down payment on his first business.
20. When she was four years old she was struck by pneumonia, scarlet fever, and polio. She nearly died and lost her ability to walk. Her brothers and sisters massaged her legs five times a day.
1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Marilyn Monroe
3. Dr. Seuss
5. Winston Churchill
9. Ray Kroc
10. Michael Jordan
11. Babe Ruth
12. Walt Disney
14. Woody Allen
15. Steve Largent
16. Tyrone Curtis Bogues
18. Tom Cruise
19. Bill Gates
20. Wilma Rudolph
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10 greatest American Presidents?
After some time I have put together a list of the 10 greatest American Presidents and why they belong on the list. What would you change on my list?
1. George Washington-Father of our country, held the nation together through its toughest hours. Established precedent of relinquishing power after two terms.
2. Abraham Lincoln-Preserved the Union, ended slavery.
3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt on the Great Depression, then led the nation through WWII.
4. Theodore Roosevelt-Trust buster, helped establish country as a world power.
5. Andrew Jackson-Paid national debt, brought the common man into politics.
6. James K. Polk-Serverely underrated, accomplished all four goals in presidency. Acquired New Mexico and California, acquired Oregon Territory, established the independent treasury and lowered tariffs.
7. Woodrow Wilson-Led the nation through WWI, established the Federal Reserve.
8, Thomas Jefferson-Purchased the Louisiana territory, protected the rights of the common man.
9. James Monroe-Led the nation in the era of good feelings, took Florida from Spain, issued the Monroe Doctrine
10. Ronald Reagan-Ended the Cold War.
1. George Washington – he set the course of our country and embodied the ideals of our founding principles. he stepped down from power because he knew it was the right thing for the republic.
2. Abraham Lincoln – he held the union together through the most critical time in US history, and the Emancipation Proclamation was the first step towards equality for all.
3. Ronald Reagan – he ended the cold war, stood for what he believed in, and gave us back our strength/ dignity after the Nixon-Ford-Carter disaster. his tax cuts (Reaganomics) stopped rampant inflation, reduced unemployment to its lowest levels ever, and caused many Americans to move up in society’s ladder.
4. Theodore Roosevelt – he protected the American worker when no one else would and took the first steps to protect the environment. most importantly, he set up the US as a world power by opening the Panama Canal and modernizing the Navy.
5. Thomas Jefferson – he was a man of integrity and principles, but didn’t let his own beliefs get in the way of what he knew was right for the country. he also doubled the size of our country with the Louisiana Purchase.
6. Andrew Jackson – he did more for the cause of democracy than any other president. he expanded the politically enfranchised population beyond the landed wealthy and gave more power to the common folks.
7. Dwight Eisenhower – he ended the Korean War. he ordered the construction of the interstate highway system, which led to huge economic growth. he also improved the standards of our public schools, especially in math and science.
8. Harry Truman – he set the precedents for the Cold War with the Truman Doctrine and Marshall Plan. he also made the right decision to use the atomic bomb.
9. Calvin Coolidge – he cleaned up the scandals left by the Harding administration and reduced the national debt. his presidency brought us peace and prosperity.
10. James Monroe – the Monroe Doctrine was a major step towards US sovereignty because it warned Europe not to interfere in the Western Hemisphere.
